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Post by Ullz on Aug 18, 2010 2:44:13 GMT -5
Okay. So the game just started - and for now I'm just going to talk to myself in here Good thing I'm a great talker, huh?
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Post by Ullz on Aug 23, 2010 6:29:05 GMT -5
I like this one: As a conversation starter. Judging from Lord of The Ring (Facebook edition) and Ragnarok here on Giraffe (in which Ulla was either a mod and creator or co-mod and co-creator), I'd say it's very likely that this game could be quite twisted...but in a good way. :foil: I don't think I was that twisted in the LoTR-game. Although I did bring Gandalf the Grey back from the dead as Gandalf the White. That was fun. Oh, Ragnarok was Bufftabby and me being evil mods. We did play that part pretty great, I think. But I've been pretty good this time around. I really don't think I've done anything that twisted. But Ed can't be sure of that, because the biggest twist was his role
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Post by Ullz on Aug 23, 2010 6:36:55 GMT -5
Or it could be a delicious cocktail made from rum and fruit juice. I know you're all eager to start playing guessing games, but determining the meaning of the zombie reference (if there is one and it's not just a red herring so ulla can laugh at us) will probably be easier once we have some more info. I feel so terrible - but this actually made me laugh out loud. I only put in the zombies because buff made the password in the scum-thread about zombies and I remembered the remarks in the sign-up-thread about them. I better have to get the bi-sexual truck drivers into the color for Day 2.
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Post by Ullz on Aug 23, 2010 6:42:07 GMT -5
after Day 1 post 157, I had to come and double check that Duvsie wasn't Scum. Or she might be terribly dastardly and give the cover pm's the same role names as the authentic town one's then plunging us into a conundrum of who is lying and which one to lynch. Nicely spotten by the scum. I didn't think about it myself but she has actually given a little away. She knows there must a reason why I put a name investigator in the game. Scum and others will not wonder about that - at least not yet.
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Post by Dreamer on Aug 23, 2010 11:47:08 GMT -5
Now knowing roles and alignment I am going back to read again lol!!!
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Post by Ullz on Aug 25, 2010 1:55:07 GMT -5
Day 1 ends in one hour and I'm pretty sure Bill is going to be upset that the masons didn't claim. I keep waiting for one of them to help him out - but it seems to late now. What's bothering me about this is, that Bill himself will have a hard time convincing people if he claimed himself. IMO it would have been better if a fellow mason claimed on his behalf and only revealed that there's "more than 2 masons".
Of cause the it a risk to do so in one of my games after "Ragnarok". Where scum in fact did (with succes) false-claim masons...
So even at that time, Bill might still be lynched. However - as a mason - I would have made the try...
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Post by Ullz on Aug 25, 2010 1:57:13 GMT -5
One other thing I wonder about is why actions still haven't been placed for the Night. I like to place them in advance and the just changing them as I go along. That way I'm sure not to forget an action by missing a deadline.
Maybe others feel differently. This is something I'd like to hear from players in the game regarding (once they join me in here).
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Post by Ullz on Aug 25, 2010 2:15:38 GMT -5
It actually could still be Red getting lynched. Both Mitch and Duvsie plays european time like Bill and I. So if they both showed up and votes Red it would swing right now.
However... I'm nor sure if it would be good for town to lynch a vig over a mason. Normally I'd say it might be. But this vig can't kill town and that makes it rather powerful. Like Ed pointed out in the thread. I don't understand why so many others think it's a weak power. To me it's rather powerful being a vig that can only kill scum (granted only one scum). Especially because scum has a redirector that can't redirect this kill onto town.
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Post by Ullz on Aug 25, 2010 6:48:27 GMT -5
When "should" Day/Night end This is going to be hard to handle without being unfair. I don't mine the suggestion made by BillMC, but I can't allow one player to decide while the game is still going on. I've tried to be fair by allowing people to discuss it Night 1 and also for scum to comment in private (if they want to bluff in the game-thread). But there is so much to consider. Some play early, others after work, some in the weekends, others never play weekends... I can see why some could be upset having missed the end of Day 1. But on the other hand - so have I often missed a Day end do to the difference in timezones.
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Post by Ullz on Aug 25, 2010 8:31:46 GMT -5
PM from Zeener Diode regarding his role: Good questions!!! It's a mechanism - not an "action". So as long as you stay alive, you will be provided with the informations at the start of the Days. You can not be seen. You don't "do" it. It happens to you. No. You can't decline. Sorry. It happens to you. Not something you actually do. Do I need to request information regarding Willoughby or will you provide it without my asking? And could I be seen? And can I decline to follow him?
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Post by Dreamer on Aug 26, 2010 9:24:42 GMT -5
Ullz, in the night actions there are still blanks. I am assuming all night actions then are not in yet?? I have to remember to check the clock countdown for end/start of days. Wonderful colour!
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Post by Ullz on Aug 26, 2010 12:35:06 GMT -5
Ullz, in the night actions there are still blanks. I am assuming all night actions then are not in yet?? I have to remember to check the clock countdown for end/start of days. Wonderful colour! Not all actions are in yet - and still waiting to see what will happen with the scum and their block/redirection...
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Post by Ullz on Aug 27, 2010 2:56:32 GMT -5
Zuma just wrote this on the scum board:
What are we to make of the fact that Ulla gave us a mason role as a fake claim? If Bill really is a mason, that could have been disastrous. I wonder if he could be 3rd party PFK or something. I also found it odd nobody came to his defense during the last day.
Or maybe there were no masons until Ed chose to be scum, and that was the way to balance it. Perhaps they were just vanilla until then. Just speculating.
Pretty cool guess about Charlotte Lucas becoming a mason. I like that.
I did give them the mason-PM as a joke and never thought they would tempt to use it after what happened in Ragnarok. (scum were given a fake mason-PM and there were no masons in that game. So they claimed with success and that (+ brilliant scum play) won them the game).
But to be fair I did warn scum Night 0: I've posted fake PM for you to claim if you wish. But please remember, the roles in the PMs might be in the game. So the claims will not be without risk.
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Post by Ullz on Aug 27, 2010 8:46:22 GMT -5
I can't help but laugh at BillMCs comment in Day 2: " Well we learn one thing from Squink's death - it is not women=town, men=scum.". I'm soooo dying to help myself from commenting: "At least not in this game - but might still not be proven to be truth IRL". But I better not
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Post by Ullz on Aug 28, 2010 4:46:39 GMT -5
From the scum-thread (by captain): I think mitchy may have an interesting role.... it is for meta gme reasons....This is indeed very meta-gamie, but I can't stop it form forming into an idea. The "problem" is that Mitchy quoted his entire PM in the Twilight-game on facebook. I wrote a personal greeting to him in that PM saying: Hi Mitch - and once more you land a great role. Best of luck in the game!!!It was stupid of me and now there is nothing there can be done about it.
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Post by Ullz on Aug 29, 2010 3:45:06 GMT -5
I'm starting to worry about my balance of the game. I know 5 scum is a lot in a small game like this - but I'm worried that the effect of a scum redirector isn't very important with the power roles I've given town. It would have been very powerful if Town had a real vig. But they didn't. So right now it can't be use for any pro-scum-purpose then to switch the name investigators investigation (Duvsie) or to direct protections (which a blocker could do just as well) and there isn't any reason for scum to need protection themselves since I don't have a SK or vig in the game Of cause some of this is due to the fact that the Town Vig was lynched. But next time I put a scum re-director in a game I should consider having thing he/she can redirect.
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Post by redskeezix on Aug 29, 2010 21:29:23 GMT -5
You may have to sub me out of the Twilight game. I sent you a post about it on FB.
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Post by Ullz on Aug 30, 2010 3:15:09 GMT -5
You may have to sub me out of the Twilight game. I sent you a post about it on FB. I can't believe I did that I'm such an idiot!
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Post by Ullz on Sept 1, 2010 2:03:04 GMT -5
This made me laugh ;D Dear Town, Please don't act scummy. It's confusing. Love, buff
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Post by Ullz on Sept 1, 2010 2:04:55 GMT -5
Claiming is usually best done when facing a lynch. I think Ulla has significantly limited the power of a claim, however, with her help in creating fake claims. I wanted to limit the power of claiming. Mostly because I wanted to push for Town not to rely too much on the powers of the power roles. So I really hoped that by providing fake PMs and telling all players this, they would in stead look at the players and their actions - and not so much the roles. I'm very open to a discussion of this in here - it could be interesting to hear what others think of this!
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Post by Ullz on Sept 1, 2010 9:27:56 GMT -5
That was quite a Day! Looks from the scum-thread that Zuma isn't sure of Bill's claim AND Bill find Zuma's vote on Uthrecht (putting him in the lead) and the unvoting was very scummy indeed. So if they both make it through Night (I bet they do *lol*) I'm looking forward to see them going after each other Day 3. That could be a historical clash of Town >< Scum. Both are really great players - so it should be really interesting
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Post by Ullz on Sept 10, 2010 13:38:59 GMT -5
I can't believe I have to kill Normal in the color I've never read that kind of mason-thread. When Romola was asking if masons were to plan strategy together or "just" be confirmed towns, I kind of wondered the same. In most games I've see mason tend to just be "confirmed" - but this game (or rather Normal) isn't like that. I think maybe I've underestimated what the mason-role can be... In most of my games I only use it for balance. But I might think of it differently from now on... Also I wonder if I did scum unjust be letting the Archangel protect from all Night actions. Should the redirector work above a protection??
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Post by normalphase on Sept 10, 2010 14:16:45 GMT -5
I'm really disappointed. I was doing so much work, and now I'm dead.
Looks like my quick instincts (Ed, bufftabby, zuma) were more reliable than my voting analysis, but hopefully that proves helpful for finding connections down the line. I presume you saw my post where I said "Ed is SO scummy here" *cries*? Haha. If the town does not go after him merely because he bussed Zuma I will cry for real. I'm not extremely hopeful. *sniff*
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Post by normalphase on Sept 10, 2010 14:18:11 GMT -5
Is he secret scum or some such, btw? I haven't read the role PMs, but did notice the scum-by-choice part. That would explain a lot if so -- if not I'm completely baffled by the bussing of captain.
Color me *extremely* amused that their fake eavesdropper results bit them in the butt.
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Post by Ullz on Sept 10, 2010 14:19:58 GMT -5
I'm really disappointed. I was doing so much work, and now I'm dead. Looks like my quick instincts (Ed, bufftabby, zuma) were more reliable than my voting analysis, but hopefully that proves helpful for finding connections down the line. I presume you saw my post where I said "Ed is SO scummy here" *cries*? Haha. If the town does not go after him merely because he bussed Zuma I will cry for real. I'm not extremely hopeful. *sniff* I hope Bill will look at all your work and make it public. Some of the things you saw where really there. And even if you also looked at town, the things *were* really there. Bill and Ben should ask these things and have town defend their actions - it's the only way to get to scum in the end. To push all players in the game. And you did. I really hope the other masons will carry on from here. The work you did was outstanding!!!
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Post by normalphase on Sept 10, 2010 14:26:08 GMT -5
Thanks, Ullz. Zeener knows what Willoughby does but not who Willoughby is? I need to read the setup. I have to say I disagree with how the block/protect has been used thus far. It's all but designed to protect an exposed Mason. It's just pure luck the scum have not decided to call the "somebody must be protecting Bill" bluff. Well luck in one sense considering two other Masons were gotten at instead. I hope the townies go down the "who was Normal Phase after" road this time, obviously.
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Post by normalphase on Sept 10, 2010 14:29:13 GMT -5
Auburn is exposed to Duvsie if the mass claim happens, Duvsie properly holds onto her results, and Auburn fake claims. Maybe even if she doesn't. Mr Elton's more or less a villain, right? By Austen standards.
I can't believe Ed is freaking Jane Austen. That one's going to be a pain. Does he have a power at all?
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Post by normalphase on Sept 10, 2010 14:52:55 GMT -5
Can I register for the scum board?
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Post by normalphase on Sept 10, 2010 17:35:02 GMT -5
"I think toDay I am going to take a closer look at solfy, Ben and Mitchy" *cry*
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Post by Ullz on Sept 11, 2010 2:25:39 GMT -5
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